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Forks over knives -- BRA og interessant om kosthold og livsstil. Amerikansk forskning

Den har mange gode poenger, men samtidig bør en være litt kritisk når en ser den.

Her står det mye om vitenskapen og statistikken dokumentaren tar opp:

http://rawfoodsos.com/2011/09/22/forks-over-knives-is-the-science-legit-a-review-and-critique/

Lite utdrag:

Next is where it really gets interesting. About 20 minutes into the movie, we get a fascinating historical tidbit about diet and heart disease in war-time Norway:

Minute 19:50
—In World War II, the Germans occupied Norway. Among the first things they did was confiscate all the livestock and farm animals to provide supplies for their own troops. So the Norwegians were forced to eat mainly plant-based foods.

In the movie, Esselstyn eagerly explains how cardiovascular disease went kerplunk when the Germans invaded in 1939, only to zip back up as soon as the war was over—perfectly coinciding with their supposed near-vegan period. How obvious it is! The Norwegians went veggie and healthied up; they returned to their lamb and gjetost and re-clogged their arteries. As Esselstyn puts it: ”With the cessation of hostilities in 1945, back comes the meat, back comes the dairy, back comes the strokes and heart attacks.”

Here’s the graph the movie walks us through. The Nazi flag marks the arrival of the Germans; 1945 is when they left. (Right below it is a similar graph from a 1951 issue of “The Lancet” that’s even more dramatic. After adjusting for an unequal age distribution (and unrealistically low mortality in the ’20s and ’30s), we can see that death from cardiovascular disease really did nosedive to a lower rate than Norway had seen in the past few decades.)

norway_wwii.jpg?w=510&h=276

War! What is it good for? Reversing heart disease, apparently.

age_adjusted_norway.jpg?w=510

Oh, Norway; how close you were to cardiovascular salvation! Nice job screwing it up.

The intended point, of course, is that the dip in mortality was from giving up animal foods. When the Germans swiped all sentient creatures from the food supply, Norwegian hearts pumped with atherosclerosis-free ease—proving that going “plant based” will save your ticker. It sounds convincing enough, and the graph is compelling*… but is there more to the story than meets the eye?

*Note: If you look at the numbers on the right side of the graph, you’ll see mortality dropped from 30 to 24 deaths per 10,000—a difference of only six people per 10,000. That’s still nothing to sneeze at (especially if one of the saved was your great-grandpa Bjørn who helped you exist), but the graph gives an exaggerated view of the actual change in mortality.

Får overnattingsbesøk av min 13 år gamle søster i helga. Hun har lyst på en liten filmmaraton; Noen anbefalnninger?

ganske voksen for alderen og noe nerdete:-p Liker alt fra Dr. WHO til Big Bang Theory.

Blue Mountain State! Morsom, spennende og uforutsigbar :)

Den har mange gode poenger, men samtidig bør en være litt kritisk når en ser den.

Her står det mye om vitenskapen og statistikken dokumentaren tar opp:

http://rawfoodsos.com/2011/09/22/forks-over-knives-is-the-science-legit-a-review-and-critique/

Lite utdrag:

Next is where it really gets interesting. About 20 minutes into the movie, we get a fascinating historical tidbit about diet and heart disease in war-time Norway:

Minute 19:50
—In World War II, the Germans occupied Norway. Among the first things they did was confiscate all the livestock and farm animals to provide supplies for their own troops. So the Norwegians were forced to eat mainly plant-based foods.

In the movie, Esselstyn eagerly explains how cardiovascular disease went kerplunk when the Germans invaded in 1939, only to zip back up as soon as the war was over—perfectly coinciding with their supposed near-vegan period. How obvious it is! The Norwegians went veggie and healthied up; they returned to their lamb and gjetost and re-clogged their arteries. As Esselstyn puts it: ”With the cessation of hostilities in 1945, back comes the meat, back comes the dairy, back comes the strokes and heart attacks.”

Here’s the graph the movie walks us through. The Nazi flag marks the arrival of the Germans; 1945 is when they left. (Right below it is a similar graph from a 1951 issue of “The Lancet” that’s even more dramatic. After adjusting for an unequal age distribution (and unrealistically low mortality in the ’20s and ’30s), we can see that death from cardiovascular disease really did nosedive to a lower rate than Norway had seen in the past few decades.)

norway_wwii.jpg?w=510&h=276

War! What is it good for? Reversing heart disease, apparently.

age_adjusted_norway.jpg?w=510

Oh, Norway; how close you were to cardiovascular salvation! Nice job screwing it up.

The intended point, of course, is that the dip in mortality was from giving up animal foods. When the Germans swiped all sentient creatures from the food supply, Norwegian hearts pumped with atherosclerosis-free ease—proving that going “plant based” will save your ticker. It sounds convincing enough, and the graph is compelling*… but is there more to the story than meets the eye?

*Note: If you look at the numbers on the right side of the graph, you’ll see mortality dropped from 30 to 24 deaths per 10,000—a difference of only six people per 10,000. That’s still nothing to sneeze at (especially if one of the saved was your great-grandpa Bjørn who helped you exist), but the graph gives an exaggerated view of the actual change in mortality.

Har så vidt starta å se.. mn takk for heads up. *på-med-kritiske-øyne*

Har så vidt starta å se.. mn takk for heads up. *på-med-kritiske-øyne*

Lurt :)

Om du ser på den øverste grafen for eksempel, så ser det ved første øyekast ut som en ganske drastisk forandring, men tallene til venstre viser altså at det per 10 000 mennesker var et utslag fra 30 til 24 personer.

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Ripper Street, BBC-produsert periodekrim som utspiller seg et år etter at Jack the Ripper holdt på i Whitechapel.

Veldig bra serie, og for oss Game of Thrones-fans dukker det opp mange av skuespillerne fra GoT der (og Bronn spiller en av hovedrollene)

House of Cards, nei, ikke nyinnspillingen som er så varmt (med rette) anbefalt av nesten alle her, men BBC-serien fra 1990. Langt mørkere og kynisk enn den amerikanske.

Urquhart.jpg

Vet ikke om de ligger på netflix, men der jeg ser på er

Supernatural

Vampire Diaries

Big Bang Theory

Two and A Half Men

The Walking Dead

Grimm

Glee

Person of Interest <33 Den har et litt James Bond preg over seg which I LOOOOOOOVE :love: My nr. 1-

Pretty Little Liars

Once Upon A Time

Dexter

Game of Thrones

Arrow

Beauty and the Beast

Merlin

The Following

Fringe

Terra Nova

Alcatraz

.. noe jeg kom på i farta som jeg har sett på eller følger med på currently. men som sagt, vet ikke om de faktisk ligger der inne.

Du burde se :

White Collar

Lie to me

The Mentalist

Human Target

:-D

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